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Musk moves Tesla's goalposts, investors happily move shares higher

(2024/04/24)


Opinion Elon Musk has a strategy and you may have seen it before: When things aren't going well, he'll say something wild to take everyone's eyes off the trouble, and raise share prices with dreams.

Take last night's earnings call as an example.

The [1]first quarter of 2024 didn't go well for Tesla, either economically or reputationally. As we reported earlier, sales fell, net profit tumbled off the same cliff Tesla's stock price earlier careened over, and production and deliveries decreased as well.

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But give Musk a chance to toss out a flash grenade and he'll do just that: This time around with some wild predictions about his automaker producing a "purpose-built robotaxi" dubbed the "Cybercab," and Tesla's latest vision for the future as one in which it is focused on "solving autonomy."

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"We're putting the actual auto in automobile," Musk said last night. The objective, as the billionaire tycoon described it, was to put the self-driving Cybercab on the road in short order, operating alongside privately owned Teslas being rented out for use as an autonomous taxi fleet. The slide deck

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for the evening even included an image of what Tesla's ride hailing app may look like once it arrives Soon™. It seems the idea is that Tesla puts Cybercabs on the streets, and makes an app for booking rides using the software-controlled vehicles, and people can add their private Teslas to the available pool.

"It's like some combination of Airbnb and Uber, meaning that there will be some number of cars that Tesla owns itself and operates in the fleet … and then there'll be a bunch of cars where they're owned by the end user," Musk said. He added the fleet will likely grow to include "several tens of millions" of vehicles by the end of the decade.

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"I think," the SpaceX supremo added.

As part of the robotaxi platform, privately-owned Teslas that aren't being driven by humans or autonomously chauffeuring riders around, would be added to a lake of distributed computing resources.

"It's analogous to Amazon Web Services, where people didn't expect that AWS would be the most valuable part of Amazon when it started out as a bookstore," Musk said. "If you get to the 100 million vehicle level, which I think we will … you've got a kilowatt of useable compute," Musk said.

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A whole kilowatt? "I think you could have on the order of 100 gigawatts of useful compute." Ah.

"And unlike laptops and our cell phones, it is totally under Tesla's control," Musk added.

But even these outlandish claims, which seem to have had the intended effect of boosting Tesla shares (up 12 percent as of writing), aren't anything new - Musk spent plenty of time in the 2010s [8]claiming he'd have one million robotaxis on the road by 2020. As we all know, 2020 came and went without any such excitement.

Have you learned nothing?

Elon Musk has flim-flammed his way out of accountability countless times in the past.

Getting in trouble over "Full-Self Driving" [9]claims ? Stick a guy in a [10]robot suit and call it Optimus to distract shareholders. Fail to get FSD realized this year - [11]again ? Just kick it down the road. Journalists calling him out on his nonsense? Rant about the "woke mind virus" and the media [12]on Twitter .

Of course, Optimus has been nowhere to be seen and was barely mentioned during the call. Likewise, Tesla's dreams of tens of millions of robotaxis on the road in the next six years rests on the need for serious technological breakthroughs the automaker has failed to make despite years of trying. Oh, and a ton of permits if this is to operate in the States, at least.

[13]Musk's view count antics are perfect cover for Twitter's paid API failure

[14]Elon Musk's ambitions for Starship soar high while reality waits on launchpad

[15]Elon Musk set to buy Twitter in $44b deal, promises stuff

[16]Tesla slashes vehicle and self-driving-ish software prices as shares plummet

This year felt different, though: It seemed like 2024 was the year in which Elon Musk might have to put up or shut up. His reputation has been harmed from [17]his X antics . Tesla's shares performed [18]worse than Boeing's in the first quarter of 2024, largely because of Cybertruck [19]problems and [20]missed expectations.

Not so, as it turns out. Toss some new robotaxi, distributing computing, self driving, and low-cost Tesla promises out there and everyone forgets the past three months. The fact the promises have been made before - and worked their magic then, too - seems to be entirely forgotten.

In the meantime, your humble vulture will believe in the Cybercab when he sees it - and it better be more than just a guy in a car costume or a [21]clunky prototype . The fact that Tesla investors don't seem to share that skepticism is frankly a shock at this point. ®

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[1] https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/24/tesla_q1_2024/

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[5] https://digitalassets.tesla.com/tesla-contents/image/upload/IR/TSLA-Q1-2024-Update.pdf

[6] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44ZimA@fEvKKVVUBRiiCY1vAAAAEY&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

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[8] https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/22/elon-musk-says-tesla-robotaxis-will-hit-the-market-next-year.html

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/19/us_ftc_probe/

[10] https://www.theregister.com/2021/08/20/tesla_ai_day/

[11] https://www.theregister.com/2023/07/20/tesla_to_license_fsd_software/

[12] https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1783053802033332486

[13] https://www.theregister.com/2023/02/14/musks_latest_antics_are_perfect/

[14] https://www.theregister.com/2023/10/06/musk_starship_interview/

[15] https://www.theregister.com/2022/04/25/elon_musk_buys_twitter/

[16] https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/22/tesla_cuts_prices/

[17] https://www.theregister.com/2023/10/30/x_looks_back_at_year/

[18] https://www.barrons.com/articles/tesla-boeing-stock-market-worst-38397ca7

[19] https://www.theregister.com/2024/04/22/tesla_accelerator_fix/

[20] https://www.theregister.com/2024/01/25/tesla_conference_call/

[21] https://www.theregister.com/2022/10/03/tesla_optimus_prototype/

[22] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



Tesla is screwed

Anonymous Coward

And hopefully Musk is too, the snivelling nazi twat.

My Bullshit Meter Just Exploded

simonlb

He added the fleet will likely grow to include "several tens of millions" of vehicles by the end of the decade.

And yet some people still believe what he says and laud him as some sort of messiah. He isn't anything of the sort, and people are finally, finally starting to listen to the utter crap he spouts and realising that it's all complete rubbish and he's just a monorail snake oil salesman who is very good as hustling.

Re: My Bullshit Meter Just Exploded

Andy Non

Yeah, I read that line and after peeling my eyebrows off the ceiling wondered if Elon has been on the funny cigarettes again.

Re: My Bullshit Meter Just Exploded

Doctor Syntax

I'd like to think you're right but if the share price goes up it shows at least some people are still believing him.

Re: My Bullshit Meter Just Exploded

John Miles

Or at least some people believe others will believe him so the greater fool game can continue.

hittitezombie

Did he forgot to mention AI for the buzzword bingo?

aerogems

He substituted "robo" for it.

Concerning

Dan 55

A Tesla exec announced he would be leaving at the end of the call, this is the third to leave in two weeks.

A Fool And Their Money

aerogems

I have zero sympathy for people who will end up holding the bag when Tesla stock starts going the way of Truth Social. He's been literally using the same schtick for around a decade now, so if you haven't caught on by this point, there's probably no helping you.

Teslas that aren't being driven would be added to a lake of distributed computing resources

Howard Sway

He seriously thinks this could compete with AWS? The network co-ordination and latency issues would be horrendous. Plus the fact that it would be have to be powered by individual Tesla owners' private electricity bills, which I suspect many people might not be overly happy about. I can see how this idea might have momentarily dazzled the share price analysts. But it's never going to be a practical proposition.

A witty saying proves nothing, but saying something pointless gets
people's attention.