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Google dumps interest-based ad system for another interest-based ad system

(2022/01/26)


Google has given up on Federated Learning of Cohorts (FLoC), a categorization system for serving interest-based ads, and replaced it with Topics, a categorization system for serving interest-based ads.

Caught between the push to do something about cookie-based tracking and the counter-revolution to get regulators to keep third-party cookies alive, the Chocolate Factory has proposed a revision of its ill-fated FLoC plan.

"With Topics, your browser determines a handful of topics, like 'Fitness' or 'Travel & Transportation,' that represent your top interests for that week based on your browsing history," explained Vinay Goel, product director for Google's Privacy Sandbox, in a [1]blog post on Tuesday.

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In other words, your web history is broken down into hostnames, which are analyzed by a machine-learning algorithm to determine the general topics you're interested in. This all happens locally within your browser. Then websites aware of this tech can make an Google Topics API call to your browser to fetch an array of up to three topics derived from your visited sites that can then be used to present targeted ads.

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As an ostensible nod to privacy, [5]Topics are chosen on the user's device without the involvement of external servers – though ad networks and the like may be able to infer which topics prompted their ads – and are retained for only three weeks before being deleted. And Topics have been "thoughtfully curated to exclude sensitive categories, such as gender or race," we're told.

"When you visit a participating site, Topics picks just three topics, one topic from each of the past three weeks, to share with the site and its advertising partners," said Goel. "Topics enables browsers to give you meaningful transparency and control over this data, and in Chrome, we're building user controls that let you see the topics, remove any you don't like or disable the feature completely.

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"Topics are selected entirely on your device without involving any external servers, including Google servers."

Yet even this latest gambit may come up short, at least as far as privacy advocates are concerned. Researchers have already established that a person's browsing history [7]can be used to uniquely identify someone.

Awkward. At Chrome summit, developer asks: Why should anyone trust Google? [8]READ MORE

Introduced in 2020 and tested for a few months last year until [9]privacy problems surfaced, [10]FLoC was one of a number of proposals for preserving targeted advertising once third-party cookies get phased out for being irredeemable enablers of surveillance.

Google refers to these proposals collectively as the [11]Privacy Sandbox . They reflect not only the recognition that web browsers have real security and privacy gaps but also that tightening privacy laws in Europe and the US will not permit online advertising to continue in its current invasive form.

FLoC divides people into groups with similar interests, in order to hide individual identities in the crowd while still pitching people with marketing that corresponds to supposed interests. Google previously claimed that [12]FLoC performs 95 per cent as well as cookie-based advertising.

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However, a technical analysis of the proposal

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published last June by Mozilla's Eric Rescorla and Martin Thomson suggests Google's technology fails to provide sufficient anonymity.

"In particular, it may be possible to identify individual users by using both FLoC IDs and relatively weak fingerprinting vectors," the Mozillans concluded. "When considered as coexisting with existing state-based tracking mechanisms, FLoC has the potential to significantly increase the power of cross-site tracking."

At the same time, Google has been set upon by ad industry challengers who argue that browser cookies should be left alone because their businesses rely on cookie-based data collection. Revanchist ad firms have been trying to convince antitrust regulators that removing third-party cookies will only make Google more powerful because Google will retain ways to gather data while others will not.

The changes are anticompetitive because they raise barriers to entry and exclude competition in the exchange and ad buying tool markets

That line of argument is reflected in the antitrust complaints Google is facing in the US, such the one filed [15]by Texas and other states , which describes the Privacy Sandbox proposals thus: "Overall, the changes are anticompetitive because they raise barriers to entry and exclude competition in the exchange and ad buying tool markets, which will further expand the already dominant market power of Google's advertising businesses."

In a [16]blog post responding to Google's announcement, Peter Snyder, senior director of privacy at competing browser maker Brave, characterized Topics as a rebranding of FLoC that fails to address important privacy issues.

Topics, he said, differs from FLoC by conditionally broadcasting interests rather than making them available on demand and by adding some randomness to make user reidentification via fingerprinting techniques a bit more challenging.

Even so, he argues these changes still amount to putting lipstick on a pig. Both FLoC and Topics, he contends, hurt privacy and competition. The choice, he argues, should not be the lesser of two evils.

"Google's proposals are privacy-improving only from the cynical, self-serving baseline of 'better than Google today," Snyder said. "Chrome is still the most privacy-harming popular browser on the market, and Google is trying to solve a problem they introduced by taking minor steps meant to consolidate their dominance on the ad tech landscape. Topics does not solve the core problem of Google broadcasting user data to sites, including potentially sensitive information." ®

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[1] https://blog.google/products/chrome/get-know-new-topics-api-privacy-sandbox/

[2] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=2&c=2YfEp2mDCCe8oCL74TTUUHQAAAFE&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D2%26raptor%3Dcondor%26pos%3Dtop%26test%3D0

[3] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YfEp2mDCCe8oCL74TTUUHQAAAFE&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[4] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33YfEp2mDCCe8oCL74TTUUHQAAAFE&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[5] https://github.com/jkarlin/topics

[6] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=4&c=44YfEp2mDCCe8oCL74TTUUHQAAAFE&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D4%26raptor%3Dfalcon%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[7] https://blog.lukaszolejnik.com/web-browsing-histories-are-private-personal-data-now-what/

[8] https://www.theregister.com/2021/11/08/why_should_anyone_trust_google/

[9] https://www.theregister.com/2021/07/08/google_floc_changes/

[10] https://github.com/WICG/floc

[11] https://privacysandbox.com/

[12] https://blog.google/products/ads-commerce/2021-01-privacy-sandbox/

[13] https://pubads.g.doubleclick.net/gampad/jump?co=1&iu=/6978/reg_onprem/personaltech&sz=300x50%7C300x100%7C300x250%7C300x251%7C300x252%7C300x600%7C300x601&tile=3&c=33YfEp2mDCCe8oCL74TTUUHQAAAFE&t=ct%3Dns%26unitnum%3D3%26raptor%3Deagle%26pos%3Dmid%26test%3D0

[14] https://mozilla.github.io/ppa-docs/floc_report.pdf

[15] https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/15/googles_facebook_advertising/

[16] https://brave.com/googles-topics-api/

[17] https://whitepapers.theregister.com/



FFS

sabroni

"With Topics, your browser determines a handful of topics, like 'Fitness' or 'Travel & Transportation,' that represent your top interests for that week based on your browsing history"

Well, how about you just display your list of topics and let me pick the ones I want to see ads for? No need to phone home with my browsing history or devise clever algorithms.

Users might even opt in to a system like that....

Re: FFS

Phil O'Sophical

Exactly. According to that algorithm my top interest this week is car bodyshops that can repair accident damage. I sincerely hope I will have no need to see adverts for that ever again.

Re: FFS

b0llchit

Sure you do! The subliminal messages sent in the adverts ensure that you will crash a bit more. Simultaneously, you are directed to the most profitable (*) bodyshop.

(*) not profitable for you, of course. The owner of the bodyshop is happy to see you. Again and again.

Re: FFS

b0llchit

Users might even opt in to a system like that....

Are you sure? If you inform the user properly about the consequences and give the default option "none of the above" (i.e. opt out), what chance do you have that anyone would want to opt in?

Honesty is one thing the advertising branch does practice. They would expose their creepiness if they did and nearly everybody would run away fast. The (targeted) advertising branch is using you to push and sell more stuff nobody wants or needs and effectively promotes destructive consumerism. Do we need more wolf disguised in sheep's skin?

Re: FFS

LDS

Just, the browser processing your history to extract "topics" ends to know mostly everything about you. And you have no assurance that it doesn't report everything to its "creators". Once again this is a move to create a Google silo where only the Eye of Google sees all the data and others have to pay Google to access the herds they wish to sell something too. That's "privacy" only in the meaning that your data becomes Google's private property.

No more trust

jmch

Topics all sounds fine and dandy when described in this way, but who can trust the actual implementation? How do I know what topics my browser is flagging? How do I know that what my browser is telling me it's collecting and sending is what it's actually doing? How do I know this stuff gets deleted when they say it does? How do I know that the topics sent by my browser aren't being collated against my IP, browser name / version, OS name / version etc etc, and kept somewhere else?

The reality is that we don't, and there is no way to fix this as long as user privacy is dependent on trusting any server to respect ther privacy. The trust model has to be flipped around on it's head, where data is controlled by the user. I'm sure someone (much) cleverer than me can work on the technical details, but what is needed is something like an encrypted token with user data that automatically expires after a certain time. The user enters, controls and owns the data. If some data is required to make a site work (ie online shop or ticket booking), the site only gets the data it needs and nothing else. Users can put sites in trust categories and manage trust settings per category so they don't need to faff about with settings all the time. 3rd party sites don't get any data. And if ad networks want to get any demographic information, they have to pay the user directly. Then the user can make that choice whether to sell their data or not, instead of Google vacuuming up the data by brute force or stealth and selling it off.

Of course users also have the choice of whether they want to pay for services like gmail, google maps etc by releasing their data or by paying cash - there are no free lunches. But at least it's explicit what's going on, and Google's monstrous profits give some strong clues about what the value of the user data it collects from these 'free' services really is compared to the cost to Google of running these services.

The other thing is to stop browsers sending all the details about browser type, version, OS type and version, in fact any details about what hardware / software it's running on. A web site should not need any of this information to serve a readable webpage, that's what web standards are for! (the single concession I would make to this is whether the device is mobile or not)

Re: No more trust

Billy Whiz

I think that's what Tim Berners Lees' Inrupt organisation attempts to do. Don't know the details or how successful they are, but they are trying to do that sort of thing

How about a disinterest based system

DrXym

Here are 3 things this person has not browsed for this month. That's it. Don't waste your time advertising those things. For advertising anything else, pot luck.

Anonymous Coward

How about a browser that just renders the pages I ask for and does nothing else? If companies want to sell me stuff, they don't need to stalk me. I will find them, as and when I need to buy the thing they are selling.

John Robson

Or you know, they could find publications which are likely to interest me - and serve a static ad on their front page for a week

Well well well

John Lilburne

I was scanning through my browser history the other day. 1000s of page hits on Medieval Tombs, Renaissance Art history, Heteroptera and Coleoptera insects. So what ads are they going to be showing me? Funeral Directors, and Pest control most likely. Good job I don't use google browser, or their piss poor search engine, and I have all the whitelisted sites provided by AdBlock added to the blacklisted sites.

This all happens locally within your browser

Howard Sway

Problem : Google senses regulatory trouble for collecting and analysing too much info on users browsing history.

Solution : Google makes users collect and analyse their own browsing history and then hand this analysis over to websites when they visit them.

When will I find the first website which bars me from visiting because I don't have this feature enabled? Because no way am I running constant analysis of my own web use locally, just so Google can make some more cash. Forget cryptojacking, this is adjacking.

Are you deaf or stupid Google?

grizewald

Or maybe (more likely) you just don't care.

I do not give you permission to collect any of my browsing history. I do not want to see advertising, targeted or otherwise.

Being able to adapt and realise new solutions to challenges is a sign of intelligence. Repeatedly flogging a dead horse because

you can't think of a different approach is not.

No point

Zebo-the-Fat

No point sending me any ads... I refuse to use a company that pesters me with ads, If I want to buy a product I will look for them, not the other way around.

(one reason why I haven't watched live TV for years.. programs I want to watch ruined by ads)

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