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Fedora Rejects Proposal To Use systemd For Managing Per-User Environment Variables

([Fedora] 96 Minutes Ago Needs To Be Refined)


The Fedora Engineering and Steering Committee "FESCo" this week rejected a change proposal for Fedora 45 that would use systemd's environment generator functionality for managing per-user environment variables.

The Fedora 45 proposal sought to use systemd.environment-generator for managing per-user environment variables, rather than relying on individual shellrc scripts of ~/.bashrc and friends.

[1]The proposal argued that using systemd for managing per-user environment variables would simplify per-user environment variable propagation and make environment variable changes independent of a user's default shell. Plus this change would be more friendly to those installing alternative shells like Fish or Dash.

But the FESCo committee decided to [2]reject the change. The leading concern was that this systemd.environment-generator usage could break various things in unattended ways, especially systemd-less environments like container deployments.

The proposal could be revised and re-submitted when addressing concerns over systemd-less environments and providing more configuration examples, but for now the change proposal in its current form is dead.



[1] https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/UseSystemdForManagingPerUserEnvironmentVariables

[2] https://pagure.io/fesco/issue/3582



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"I'll eat thee too, and gnaw thy shins.
A bit o' fresh meat will go down sweet!
I'll try my teeth on thee now.
Hee now! See now!
I'm tired o' gnawing old bones and skins;
I've a mind to dine on thee now."

But just as he thought his dinner was caught,
He found his hands had hold of naught.
Before he could mind, Tom slipped behing
And gave him the boot to larn him.
Warn him! Darn him!
A bump o' the boot on the seat, Tom thoguht,
Would be the way to larn him.

But harder than stone is the flesh and bone
Of a troll that sits in the hills alone.
As well set your boot to the mountain's root,
For the seat of a troll don't feel it.
Peel it! Heal it!
Old Troll laughed, when he heard Tom groan,
And he knew his toes could feel it.

Tom's leg is game, since home he came,
And his bootless foot is lasting lame;
But Troll don't care, and he's still there
With the bone he boned from its owner.
Doner! Boner!
Troll's old seat is still the same,
And the bone he boned from its owner!
-- J. R. R. Tolkien